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Alabama asserts its right as a State, defies the Central government from continuing the insanity [Sep. 29th, 2011|08:45 am]
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Alabama's tough stance on ILLEGAL immigration stand up during round one.

[User Picture]From: cherokee_kid
2011-09-29 08:28 pm (UTC)
I live in Alabama. I have some 'friends' who swear that this is unChristianlike. That we cannot possibly call ourselves Christians if we won't let people cross the border illegally. I don't get it. But I love that this bill is being worked on. ILLEGAL is not a race. If you come here legally, I have no problem with you. You break the law, find ways to mooch off the system and refuse to speak English while checking out at Dollar General...I tend to have some issues. (We have people here who know English, but refuse to speak it).

/end soapbox
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[User Picture]From: brendala
2011-09-30 05:05 am (UTC)
Interesting thing about liberal views on how illegal immigrants should be treated...

I used to work for a charity that did work for Denver's poorest public schools (mainly cleaning graffiti, taking surveys to see how the kids lived, etc). And the people who ran the schools and the charity I worked for were mostly White, middle-class liberals.

Most of the poorest schools were dominated by Hispanic students. And, in a lot of those schools, half the kids couldn't speak English despite being born in the USA (and I'm not talking about 5-year-olds; most of these kids were at least 10!). In these schools, all the signs were in Spanish, all the faculty spoke Spanish, and my bosses at the charity bent over backwards to make accommodations for that (like printing flyers in Spanish and whatnot).

However, one Denver neighborhood we visited had a significant amount of Vietnamese illegal immigrants. Like the Hispanic kids, most of the kids at the Vietnamese-dominated schools were born to parents who came in illegally, had little to no English skills, and were dirt poor. But NOBODY made accommodations for them! They weren't coddled. There were no signs printed in Vietnamese. No one at the faculty or charity could speak/translate Vietnamese for them and their parents. They were expected to learn just like any other American kid in a public school.
And you know what, those Vietnamese kids EXCELLED! Despite having the same disadvantages as their Hispanic counterparts, almost all of them somehow managed to become fluent in English by first grade.

It honestly made me sick to watch those people coddle the Hispanic kids because I knew that, in the long run, they were setting those kids up for failure. My bosses and co-workers all thought they were being super tolerant and kind by learning Spanish and making things "easier" for the Hispanic families. But, in reality, they were just being "benevolent racists" (after all, this treatment basically reinforces the stereotypes about brown people being dumb and Asian people being relentlessly driven academic machines).
...And the cynical part of me wondered if it was all a conspiracy on the part of the well-to-do White liberals to make sure they had a steady supply of cheap maids, gardeners, nannies, and pool boys for years to come.

Sorry if I went off topic. This post just triggered some memories. :(

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[User Picture]From: cherokee_kid
2011-09-30 03:24 pm (UTC)
Wow....that's insane! I'm cheering for the Vietnamese kids, though! Go them for excelling under not so awesome circumstances! I do feel like coddling them, having everything for them, is just like doing everything for an infant until their eighteen, then letting them loose. What good is that going to do anyone? If you aren't helping them while you teach them, you really aren't helping them at all.
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[User Picture]From: brendala
2011-10-01 12:01 am (UTC)
That's a good analogy. Accommodating the non-English speaking Hispanics feels good in the moment; but it just leads to awful problems down the road. I felt bad for those kids and I felt awful that there was really nothing I could do to change the system.

One time, my co-workers and I were having a group discussion and I brought up my concerns about what we were doing to the Hispanic children. I used an article by Ayann Hirsi Ali to illustrate my point (it was about the failure of Muslims to assimilate in the Netherlands and how the government coddling them only helped keep them poor and the women oppressed).
My co-workers didn't see the connection and were appalled when I made the quip about our bosses keeping the Hispanics poor and English-illiterate in order to keep their cheap gardeners.

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[User Picture]From: cherokee_kid
2011-10-01 03:44 am (UTC)
I don't know how people don't see it. Unless they only look at the now part instead of the WHOLE picture. Yeah, you're right, it feels good at the moment to help, but are you really helping? No. :/
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